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Title: Certain games don't launch- but play fine in MAME
Post by: notbillcosby on April 24, 2020, 08:18:48 AM
For some reason, when I try to launch Pac-Man, Burger Time, Galaga, and probably others that I haven't found yet (are these all using Midway hardware?) from the list in mGalaxy, they don't launch. It's like it doesn't even register me hitting the launch button. Other games, like Donkey Kong, launch just fine. If I try to run the problematic games directly through Mame at the command line, they launch and play without issue. Any ideas?
Title: Re: Certain games don't launch- but play fine in MAME
Post by: jmd on April 24, 2020, 08:30:04 AM
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It's like it doesn't even register me hitting the launch button.
You mean that you can't hear the "Launching game" sound?

You use the same Mame version with mGalaxy that you use with your commandline test? The same set of roms?
Title: Re: Certain games don't launch- but play fine in MAME
Post by: notbillcosby on April 24, 2020, 08:58:08 AM
Same MAME, same romset. There’s only one copy of all that stuff on my machine so I can 100% confirm this. I’m not in front of my machine right now, but I’m fairly certain that no, it does not play the launching game sound either.

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It's like it doesn't even register me hitting the launch button.
You mean that you can't hear the "Launching game" sound?

You use the same Mame version with mGalaxy that you use with your commandline test? The same set of roms?
Title: Re: Certain games don't launch- but play fine in MAME
Post by: notbillcosby on April 26, 2020, 01:22:55 PM
I'm having a hard time with this. I can't find anything in the forums or on Google that seems to address this specific issue. I would normally suspect that my romset hadn't updated correctly for the version of MAME I'm using, but the fact that I can still launch the problematic games from the command line debunks that theory. I'm at the mercy of people here who are smarter about this kind of stuff than I am...

Is there any other info I can provide that would better help diagnose the issue?
Title: Re: Certain games don't launch- but play fine in MAME
Post by: Aeliss on April 27, 2020, 11:52:56 AM
But it works with command line ?

Can you show the command line you are using ?

Perhaps adding debug parametre in the command used by mgalaxy.
Title: Re: Certain games don't launch- but play fine in MAME
Post by: notbillcosby on April 27, 2020, 02:02:09 PM
Yup. “Mame64 btime” launches burger time just fine. Picking it out of the list in MGalaxy does not launch the game. How do I add a debug parameter to mgalaxy, and then what will I need to share with you guys in order for that to help?

But it works with command line ?

Can you show the command line you are using ?

Perhaps adding debug parametre in the command used by mgalaxy.
Title: Re: Certain games don't launch- but play fine in MAME
Post by: jmd on April 28, 2020, 02:13:16 AM
The command line issuing from mGalaxy is:
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-rompath "%path" %file%ext -volume -%volume(32,0) -skip_gameinfo -nowindow -joystickso could you try to launch you game that way:
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Mame64.exe -rompath "TheFullPathToYourRomFileIncludingExtension" -volume -0 -skip_gameinfo -nowindow -joystick
Title: Re: Certain games don't launch- but play fine in MAME
Post by: notbillcosby on April 28, 2020, 08:18:02 AM
Tried it. My DOS prompt was:

D:\mame>mame64 -rompath "D:\roms\btime.zip" -volume -0 -skip_gameinfo -nowindow
-joystick

It did not launch the game, it launched the Mame UI instead. Upon returning to DOS, this info from Switchres was shown:

SwitchRes: [empty] (1) horizontal (640x480@61.000000)->(640x480@59.980880)
Title: Re: Certain games don't launch- but play fine in MAME
Post by: Aeliss on April 29, 2020, 10:43:12 AM
 -rompath is just the path you need too the rom name

light version
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mame64.exe -rompath "F:\emulateur\mame\roms" 1941.zip
Title: Re: Certain games don't launch- but play fine in MAME
Post by: notbillcosby on April 29, 2020, 12:10:04 PM
D:\MAME>Mame64.exe -rompath "d:\roms" btime.zip -volume -0 -skip_gameinfo -nowindow -joystick

^^^This does launch the game.

-rompath is just the path you need too the rom name

light version
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mame64.exe -rompath "F:\emulateur\mame\roms" 1941.zip
Title: Re: Certain games don't launch- but play fine in MAME
Post by: Aeliss on April 29, 2020, 02:24:27 PM
So with command line it works but not using mGalaxy ?
Realy strange, can you show the MGalaxyRunaway page with the config pls ?
Title: Re: Certain games don't launch- but play fine in MAME
Post by: notbillcosby on April 30, 2020, 08:12:42 AM
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Title: Re: Certain games don't launch- but play fine in MAME
Post by: Aeliss on April 30, 2020, 09:55:38 AM
Seriously, WTF, it's exactly the same command line than mGalaxy.

Can you try to add in the mGalaxy command line some debug option

https://docs.mamedev.org/commandline/commandline-all.html#debugging-options

I think this one is not bad

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-[no]log
    Creates a file called error.log which contains all of the internal log messages generated by the MAME core and system drivers. This can be used at the same time as -log to output the log data to both targets as well.

Edit:
Haaaa, I have perhapos an idea, disable your database, and make a try with rom file name.
Title: Re: Certain games don't launch- but play fine in MAME
Post by: notbillcosby on April 30, 2020, 10:16:40 AM
I’m extremely hazy on how database stuff works. Could you point me to directions on how to do exactly what you’re talking about?
Title: Re: Certain games don't launch- but play fine in MAME
Post by: Aeliss on May 01, 2020, 02:48:36 AM
On the first screenshoot, there is a button "Extra", from my memory you have an option to uncheck.
Title: Re: Certain games don't launch- but play fine in MAME
Post by: notbillcosby on May 01, 2020, 08:15:06 AM
Alright! This works but as you’d expect my game names are all gone now. I did my best to follow the instructions on this site for setting up a database but I must’ve screwed something up. Thanks so much for your help so far... got any more advice? :)

On the first screenshoot, there is a button "Extra", from my memory you have an option to uncheck.
Title: Re: Certain games don't launch- but play fine in MAME
Post by: Aeliss on May 01, 2020, 12:05:22 PM
Ok So the problem is from your database
You are just not lauching exactly the same game but surely a clone.

You can re-enable database, but take care on the game list,
btime.zip is "Burger Time (Data East set 1)" exactly, wich one are you trying in mGalaxy ?
Title: Re: Certain games don't launch- but play fine in MAME
Post by: notbillcosby on May 01, 2020, 07:53:04 PM
I turned the database back on and tried this out. You’re right, Burger Time (Data East Set 1) will launch from MGalaxy. Similarly, Ms. Pac-Man will but Ms. Pac-Man (speedup hack) does not. I have apparently built my database wrong...? I followed the guide on this page but, iirc, there were some discrepancies between what showed on my screen vs the tutorial. Maybe I follow the guide again and take screenshots of the process so we can find where I’m going wrong?

Ok So the problem is from your database
You are just not lauching exactly the same game but surely a clone.

You can re-enable database, but take care on the game list,
btime.zip is "Burger Time (Data East set 1)" exactly, wich one are you trying in mGalaxy ?
Title: Re: Certain games don't launch- but play fine in MAME
Post by: Aeliss on May 02, 2020, 01:13:42 PM
No, I think it's simple
Run mgalaxy, open preference tab (it have filter option),  enable "available only" or something like this.
Title: Re: Certain games don't launch- but play fine in MAME
Post by: notbillcosby on May 02, 2020, 01:17:20 PM
I have a huge romset, 201 that I (hopefully!) updated to 202. I’m sure I have things like ms pac man with the speed up hack and would definitely like to play them. Won’t this turn off the clones?
Edit: Yes, it does what I expected. Does this mean my database is made wrong? That I updated my romset incorrectly?

No, I think it's simple
Run mgalaxy, open preference tab (it have filter option),  enable "available only" or something like this.
Title: Re: Certain games don't launch- but play fine in MAME
Post by: Aeliss on May 03, 2020, 06:27:58 AM
No it's don't hide clone, there is too an option too for clone, this option just hide existing rom but not present on your system.
Title: Re: Certain games don't launch- but play fine in MAME
Post by: notbillcosby on May 03, 2020, 07:59:42 AM
I guess I have my terminology wrong. When i only show available roms I lose things like fast ms pac man and fast galaga. I'm absolutely certain my 85gb romset includes those roms, and I like them and want to be able to play them. Did I fail when i was making the database or updating my romset?

No it's don't hide clone, there is too an option too for clone, this option just hide existing rom but not present on your system.
Title: Re: Certain games don't launch- but play fine in MAME
Post by: Aeliss on May 03, 2020, 09:06:37 AM
Ok so you have the files, but they don't appear in mGalaxy ?
So I think it's a version problem with ini files used to make db and file version, yes.
Title: Re: Certain games don't launch- but play fine in MAME
Post by: notbillcosby on May 03, 2020, 02:06:23 PM
Where do I start? I only understand the updates/romsets and database stuff well enough to follow the tutorials I've found, but apparently not enough to detect when something didn't work right. Do I try making the database again? Maybe I should try running a "speedup hack" version of a game from the command line...? I'm also not sure how to run a variant like that.



Ok so you have the files, but they don't appear in mGalaxy ?
So I think it's a version problem with ini files used to make db and file version, yes.
Title: Re: Certain games don't launch- but play fine in MAME
Post by: Aeliss on May 04, 2020, 04:14:01 AM
I don't know enought database to answer you.

But Are you using mGalaxy Runaway to generate it ?
Title: Re: Certain games don't launch- but play fine in MAME
Post by: notbillcosby on May 04, 2020, 07:05:35 AM
Yes.

I don't know enought database to answer you.

But Are you using mGalaxy Runaway to generate it ?
Title: Re: Certain games don't launch- but play fine in MAME
Post by: notbillcosby on March 24, 2021, 11:50:32 AM
After taking about a year off from this, I fired up my machine again and it should come as no surprise that nothing has changed :) Is there anyone on this forum right now that wasn't here a year ago that might be able to help me out? I miss playing Ms Pac Man and Galaga with the speedup hacks.
Title: Re: Certain games don't launch- but play fine in MAME
Post by: mgalaxy on March 26, 2021, 09:23:32 PM
Let's focus on one rom of your choice if you don't mind! Could you tell me the (real) name of the game and the rom name associated to it?
1. Can you see the rom in your rom folder?
2. Can you see the rom listed in the xmlout.xml file (mGalaxy/Data/User/The GUID of your system/xmlout.xml)...open it with a text editor